Monday, July 14, 2008

Digg Etiquette

Like many diggers, I am frustrated with Digg, but not by what you may think. Today I’m not going to vent about how it’s nearly impossible to get anything to go popular on Digg or rant about how Digg seems to be censored and hiding behind the façade that it’s a ‘democratic’ site. No, today I’m going to blog about Digg etiquette… or lack thereof.

I’ve been using Digg on and off for more than a year now - long enough to remember the days when all it took to go popular was a quantity of votes. If you submitted a story and a bunch of people voted, you were guaranteed to hit the Hot in Upcoming. After that, it was all gravy. You just sat back and (if the content was good) Diggers voted it up and you’re Mr. Popularity. Sadly, things have changed.

With the addition of features like shouts, Digg altered their algorithm. Now votes from certain users, like your friends, aren’t weighted as much. If all the votes your story is receiving are from your friends, it’s likely to take double, or even triple the votes before you see your story in Hot - if it goes at all. You may think the trick is to not have any friends but don’t start deleting any yet. Diggs from Diggers who continually Digg every single thing you submit also seem to be weighted less. I know most Diggers think they’re helping by checking out your submissions everyday and voting them up, but in fact, they’re making it harder for the story to go popular. If the first several digs your story receives are all from friends, or people who vote for your stories every single time, Digg isn’t going to count them for much. It comes down to patterns. A normal user generally wouldn't vote for every story a user submits because the chance of absolutely everything interesting them is slim. Digg knows this and you should too.

This brings to me to the two biggest beefs I’m having right now. My Digg ‘friends’ don’t seem to understand that if I vote for every single submission, it’s going to mean nothing. Shout me the ones you really like or want to go and I’d be happy to vote for it (as long as it’s not a piece of crap). But shouting me every single submission completely defeats the purpose of shouting me in the first place - my vote will mean nothing. One particular user who did this would even re-shout the stories I didn’t vote. Despite the fact we were mutual friends, he didn’t accept any shouts (hypocrite perhaps?), so ultimately I had to remove him as a friend because I couldn’t even message him to explain how I feel.

But perhaps even more frustrating than the person who doesn’t try to understand how Digg works, is the infamous ‘multiple shouter’. This is what actually inspired my post today. I received three to four shouts yesterday all for the same story from the same user. He was a newer friend of mine so I decided to send him a little shout thanking him for the story and letting him know I have Dugg it. I then asked him to try not to multiple shout me the same story since I always get to my shouts. I ended with a smiley face to show no hard feelings. I figured all was done until I checked my Digg account this morning. Two more shouts from the same user for the same story! After debating the next message I would send this person, I bit my tongue and removed them as a friend.

Honestly, I don’t mind shouts. I enjoy getting them from most of my friends and I’m happy to look at them and Digg them. But if you haven’t got the time, the sense, or the consideration to use them properly, you shouldn’t be on Digg at all. I’m willing to give anyone a chance but if you can’t even be bothered to read my shout, why should I read yours? I take the time to not shout people the same thing twice and I make sure to use my shouts sparingly. And for the record, I don’t have magical Digg powers that allow me to give a story more than one vote, so shouting me repeatedly only accomplishes one thing - you and I will no longer be friends.

7 comments:

jbignell said...

Should we all become friends with Mr. Rose and vote his stories everytime. So they will never make it to the front page.:)

Liam said...

I turned shouts off after getting the same core of users shouting multiple times a day.

Personally, I've hardly ever shouted and yet I find that content will just not go popular any more and I just can't get enough traction on anything to go popular unless I become one of the irritating users that spam all the social blogging sites and PM everyone to get votes.

My last FP was 20 submissions ago on the 18th May, and some of the subs have easily been good enough to merit a front page.

You've reminded me that it's time to start using Digg as I used to - just look through and see what's interesting to me, nothing more nothing less. Much less voting for my friends things just because of who submitted it and not what the story is.

Getting involved in the race for FPs is pointless unless you're a power user and/or are prepared to spend every waking minute on digg.

I actually think I might start enjoying to use the site again.

Natitude said...

jbignell - haha, I like your idea!

Liam - I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one moving away from submitting stories. Sometimes I find something I think would be cool, but then I remember, it won't go FP anyways. Trying to go FP now is a lot of frustrating work and really isn't worth it.

vdm17 said...

i get A LOT OF SHOUTS and i can't digg them all. it must be an ego thing. some people send shouts all day long - it's like they don't work. some articles i've found useful, but not all of them. so what you're on the front page or your digg got a lot of submissions, what does that get you, really?

JCE said...

Huh. I did not know votes from friends were weighted. Figures.

Great post!

Samsara said...

Bravoness! If people send me shouts after [self-promoting] shout per diem...then by Goddess they better be prepared to look at the lousy three a week I send out!

If not, OFF the friends list with you.

Oh. Another bugger that hit me a few days ago. Can you believe this one? Someone sent a shout to me but then had INCOMING shouts disabled?

Haha! Spammer. He got DE-friended and I added #2 to my public service announcement as a result.

bro alex said...

Making stories to the homepage will always be hard but possible. So the most effective digging is to digg interesting stories you checked out, this is what all diggers should be doing.